Comments on: Returned. And the veil. http://warriorangela.stblogs.com/2008/09/22/returned-and-the-veil/ Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:04:04 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.1 hourly 1 By: Warren http://warriorangela.stblogs.com/2008/09/22/returned-and-the-veil/comment-page-1/#comment-3404 Warren Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:10:44 +0000 http://warriorangela.stblogs.com/?p=164#comment-3404 Do you think, perhaps with all the controversy about muslim women in Hijaab that the idea of a chapel veil (mantilla) in Catholic circles will become equated with it? The interesting fact is that the muslim practice of veiled women originates in the Christian middle-east of the centuries prior to Islam. Interesting that in Judaism, men wore a "kippah" (or yarmulke) and that St. Paul reverses this when he tells men not to cover their heads. As an Orthodox Jew this is not an accidental teaching on his part, and I have often wondered at its origins. Women are always depicted wearing veils all the time in Biblical times. Some of the controversy over the mantilla is over whether or not St. Pauls words about women covering their heads in Church ('because of the angels') are considered 'cultural' by a great deal of the Church. And yet one wonders, why mention the angels. The Church seems to have left a great deal up to the individual woman to decide. All I know is that at the traditional Latin masses I sometimes attend, the women are almost always wearing a head covering of some kind (chapel veil = mantilla right?) and at english masses (where I mostly go) I have never seen a woman in a chapel veil. I think it is a wonderful tradition. I wish it were more widespread in my area. Or at least, I wish I didn't have to deal with (as a normal hot-blooded male) with women who undress to the nines and then attend mass. Lowrise jeans and kneeling in church are a non-starter, ladies. Please. :-) Warren Do you think, perhaps with all the controversy about muslim women in Hijaab that the idea of a chapel veil (mantilla) in Catholic circles will become equated with it? The interesting fact is that the muslim practice of veiled women originates in the Christian middle-east of the centuries prior to Islam. Interesting that in Judaism, men wore a “kippah” (or yarmulke) and that St. Paul reverses this when he tells men not to cover their heads. As an Orthodox Jew this is not an accidental teaching on his part, and I have often wondered at its origins. Women are always depicted wearing veils all the time in Biblical times. Some of the controversy over the mantilla is over whether or not St. Pauls words about women covering their heads in Church (’because of the angels’) are considered ‘cultural’ by a great deal of the Church. And yet one wonders, why mention the angels. The Church seems to have left a great deal up to the individual woman to decide. All I know is that at the traditional Latin masses I sometimes attend, the women are almost always wearing a head covering of some kind (chapel veil = mantilla right?) and at english masses (where I mostly go) I have never seen a woman in a chapel veil. I think it is a wonderful tradition. I wish it were more widespread in my area. Or at least, I wish I didn’t have to deal with (as a normal hot-blooded male) with women who undress to the nines and then attend mass. Lowrise jeans and kneeling in church are a non-starter, ladies. Please. :-)

Warren

]]> By: Cade_One http://warriorangela.stblogs.com/2008/09/22/returned-and-the-veil/comment-page-1/#comment-2006 Cade_One Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:57:06 +0000 http://warriorangela.stblogs.com/?p=164#comment-2006 Glad to see you are posting again. God bless. Glad to see you are posting again. God bless.

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